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the trade i decided to play book today
was um
it’s on may 28th and essentially
breakouts based on
market context um so over the past few
sessions
cues and spy had been consolidating over
its 10 20 and 50 moving averages
um and one thing we were looking at was
what was being bought right so the
strongest industries in the market over
the
past month had all been defensive if you
look on the right
you see like oil metals and mining
leading the market
and then over the past five sessions
however you start to see a different
story like
uh pvw which is clean energy ipos
art funds starting to lead the market
and so that’s telling us that
tech is getting bought and we’re seeing
that we could potentially break out
um another thing that tells us this is
that
a part of our scanning process after
hours is
figuring out all the stocks that moved
four percent or more i mean comparing
that with the stocks that move four
percent or less
and this gives us a tell of exactly how
are these stocks moving what’s being
bought
um and like what potential trades are
there and so over the past
few sessions two sessions exactly what
we noticed was there was an increase in
number of four percent breakouts
despite cues and spies staying in range
um this is pretty strange right um just
because historically when you see
a lot of breakouts you’re gonna see
breakouts on the indexes and
big moves on the indices as well so this
is kind of indicating to us that
there’s a good chance that we’ll see a
breakout in the near future kind of
adding to that market narrative
super curious brian as to
how you came up with four percent and
how you
observe this because this is a great
observation
something that i’d love for more people
to do so
want to dive deeper into how you spotted
this
yeah to be honest four percent is
um i think if you did it like three to
five percent it would probably be the
same
we just wanted to see i guess
um what are stocks that are moving and
that’ll capture
like um i guess all industries if that
makes sense just because like
four percent is gonna be substantial for
like
uh like a large cap versus like a small
cap which it might not be
um and how i go about doing so is that
we just have like a scan feature
um it’s just really simple filter
that’ll filter say
average volume over 500k and then
closes over four percent on the day okay
gotcha love it
appreciate it and so real quick this is
just cues and spies on the daily
um don’t need to talk too much about it
but as you can tell it’s an extremely
tight range over the past few sessions
and then the moving averages have been a
huge help on the daily as well
and as you can see in both of them the
10-day moving average is
increasing at a pretty steep rate and so
key inflections i’m watching
going into the open is this qs334 75
as you can tell the past couple sessions
we failed to get over
um so being able to hold that would be a
clear changing character
and then on spies it’s this one’s a
little more discretionary but i’m
looking to see how we hold over
yesterday’s range and hold this gap
um if this is essentially how we’re
going about doing so is seeing
if a first move is lower like are there
bids
our bid stepping up are buyers taking
this aggressively
and most importantly do we see clear
buying relatively close to the open
with things opening so close to
inflection um and
a breakout narrative supposedly
happening that’s exactly what we’re
looking for
hey so brian you’re noticing you made a
great observation
that hey these stocks are up four
percent and the overall market is kind
of stuck in a range
so how are you thinking through those
levels for queues
and spy is that something that’s going
to be an extra check in your favor
is that going to be something where
you’re gonna need
for us to be above certain levels and
cues
how are you guys thinking through that
yeah 100
um i it’s definitely more of a check in
favor
and how what it affects does it affects
the execution style
um how aggressive we’re going to be in
terms of targets
um and how big we want to get into these
positions
it’s not necessarily like it clears this
level therefore it’s strong
it’s more of how are they all moving
together and it ties to with
um what’s being bought so on our screens
we’ll see we’ll have iwms spy iqs
we’ll have a list of industries lists of
sectors
and all of that kind of ties together
into the market narrative it’s not
really just like
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in terms of names when we’re choosing
names one of them was netflix that
caught up
caught our eye and the reason is over
the past week previous to may 28th
what we saw was nvidia a market leader
we saw
facebook we saw google pushing highs
and that was in turn with when cues and
spirits run
so seeing that was a check in favor as
to why we thought netflix could be a
name that could go
it’s also consolidating really well in
the daily sitting on its 20-day
and the 10-day was increasing as well um
and
yeah consolidating at top end of range
means that we’re really close to
inflection
aka the rr on that position is really
good if it comes
and qualcomm was the other name we were
watching and so the reason behind this
one was all the moving averages were
really close together
that’s just telling us that price is
compressing
there’s buyers and sellers on both sides
and that an expansive move could
definitely happen
we’re also opening right over its 50 day
with the tight consolidation
that’s another check in favor and again
the increasing 10 day
is a big deal so in terms of catalysts
and fundamentals
um and these the numbers the two that
i’m really focused on here
are average volume and atr so for this
type of trade average volume needs to be
ideally over two to three million but
over one million is a baseline
just because those are the names with
tighter spreads and easier to day trade
um atr we found that when i look back at
my previous trades over the past six
months
i made most of my p l off names that
with an atr over one
and so from that period forward it’s
just been if it’s over one
then it’s tradable um and this last part
that
we’ve recently added to part of a check
in favor is
oh if you remember the end of last year
when we saw a bunch of those growth
names
get bought up um a lot of them had
really high sales quarter recorder
growth and eps quarter over quarter
growth
so that’s just one thing we’re seeing
especially if we’re trading a tech name
when we’re trading a growth name
um having these numbers is another check
in favor as well
and as you can tell like these are very
substantial
trading plan and so i broke out the
trading plan into two parts here
so the first part is gonna talk about
the market overall what we’re looking
for and then the second part is the
execution side itself
um and this is all done in the
pre-market before they open
and to summarize what we wanted to see
was breakouts occur
across the board so across all indices
and then
as well as in smh fang and growth
specifically
we want to see those lead and show
relative strength
and in this market overall this is over
the past couple of months
i’m just taking profits a lot quicker
this was from running back on my stats
and seeing that
i had a little higher mfes than i would
like i was giving back more profits than
i would like
and so until things clear up more and
especially when the narrative
isn’t essentially isn’t adding up to
what i would want ideally
um that’s when i’m taking profits a lot
faster hey can you just uh fill in some
of the younger guys on
what mfe is and how you’re using it
yeah so mfe essentially dictates like
um i guess what your unrealized profits
are in a very simple sense so like
throughout the course of a position um
how much were you
like what was the max that you were up
and then i kind of see that as a
i use it more of a general gauge it
isn’t like a oh it needs to be this
percent
but when i’m seeing that like uh i have
higher mfes than i would like
and i’m seeing that like i just feel
like i’m taking
it it’s a little tough for me because
it’s really discretionary and based on
the trade
um but when i just kind of see
essentially a pattern of
higher emifs than i would like um and
that’s a really easy thing to see on
trader view as well
just for the youngest guys so mfe is
maximum
favorable excursion and that’s one of
the things that we measure
in our stats for you guys to keep track
of
um and yeah so if we’re to be strong um
pools in the market should get bought
aggressively
or we should go immediately um that’s
because of where we are
opening gaps in the range and the
breakouts that we had seen
leading into today or into this day and
we
definitely don’t want to see us get
under yesterday’s range or any type of
false breakout narrative playing out
meaning strong selling volume or stuffed
move on
uh initial move higher
and so now the execution plan so top
names qualcomm and netflix
execution style is opening drive or
opening a range break
this is where we found that we have the
most edge best rr
and if we’re to be trending these are
obviously the best prices on the day
um and points to watch so this is
something i’ve added really recently
into my training
but kind of to to the point previous of
negating having a really high mfe um
these are false breakout points where i
believe could happen
um so on netflix it’s 508.50 and on
qualcomm 1.3650
so i’m watching these inflections
essentially for
like really carefully on tape to see is
there going to be a changing character
do we stuff um at these points are
sellers there
and how i’m deciding where these points
are just from
um high volume areas previous resistance
on like a daily chart
or any higher time frame as well as just
what overalls made sense and what we’re
kind of seeing
over the past couple of sessions as well
um
and potential reasons to sell so i’m not
going to go through all of them but
these kind of are the main points
um a temporary change in character on
tape will automatically mean
i take off a quarter to thirty percent
um high volume capitulation a cell will
immediately make me take off fifty
percent um and a change in market
narrative so if what that means is if
i’m
thinking we’re going to be strong on the
day and we’re breaking out we stuff and
low day breaks
on cues and spy obviously then that’s
not the narrative that i wanted so
if um and because we’re trading these
higher beta names
um that’s pretty prevalent and then full
price targets
is going to be atr or average true range
um
and we’re dabbling with this potential
like 15 to 20
swing as of right now so that’s if we
close that high a day i want to be
swinging fifteen to twenty percent
for a potential two to three day move
right away off the first ten minutes
um q’s is leading we’re holding well
over opening range after
a false breakdown um this is exactly
what i want to be seeing in terms of
price action
however it’s one thing to note is volume
is low
one thing we’ll look at is the opening
bid volume of
relative to the past previous sessions
in past previous sessions a lot of
the days started with an opening bid of
around five to six hundred k
so this is really low um and spy
is at low day so obviously right off the
bat this is already
not the ideal market narrative so i’m
weighing that as a potential
thing to note as like a hesitation
as to getting super big or being super
aggressive in terms of targets
and so first 10 minutes continued so i’m
also watching
smh and fang so both are looking really
good at the time they’re holding over
their opening range
um and yeah this is exactly what i want
to be seeing
so now first ten minutes on netflix and
qualcomm so
both have a really clean opening range
breaks
bids are stepping up neither garnering
much volume so that’s a
thing i’m weighing as well um and i’ll
show a netflix closer on the tape to
explain that better
but i do enter long on both of these
opening range breaks okay so next 20
minutes
and so this is where things kind of
change um and so
if you remember what i was talking about
earlier of looking
at cues and spy really closely to see if
the narrative continues
this obviously tells me that this isn’t
happening the false break or false
breakout narrative
is more likely now and that a really
strong breakout narrative is more
unlikely right
so we stuff pre-market high on queues um
put in a lower high
again no substantial buying volume and
now we’re starting to fade back into
opening range
on spy we’re breaking low a day after
stuffing and failing to hold vwob
and so in the short term this is telling
me that it’s weak and if i want to be
long really aggressive on an opening
drive opening a range break scenario
well that’ll most likely not work out
so just a quick idea and you probably
have thought about this
and you’re doing a really good job
looking at cues you’re looking doing a
really good job measuring strength
in a particular sector at the beginning
of the open
you might think about hey is there an
etf that i also want to watch
so you know maybe you want to watch
something like xlk
at the beginning and check in on how
that’s doing as well
right 100 um yeah so we
at this time i believe i had smh and
fang um f and gu pulled
and so now i’m just gonna break it out
into a more
broad view of netflix and so
as you can see um we have uh
the first move higher on extremely low
volume
right compared to opening bid that’s
what i’ll use as a relative gauge of
high and low volume
and we’re slowing down as we come into
the value area so if you see like size
of the candle
and on tape you’ll see like how
aggressive offers are lifting
as we come into that 508 or start to
come into that area
we’re stalling out and then the first uh
lower high
or potential to catch and move higher
get stuffed
so there’s no follow through and we see
a failure of buyers to appear at vwop as
well
as we sell back into opening range
and similar idea it kind of happens on
qualcomm
so uh high day breaks are stuffed as we
approach resistance areas as well
as you as you remember in the pre-market
plan i was talking about this 136.50 so
this is exactly what i was watching for
and so even though this one is a little
bit better in terms of the entry point
because we do see aggressive buying as
we break opening range
um this is a huge check in favor to us
and something we’re weighing
and what we like to see ideally is does
the brake
does the volume on the brake equal or
get
larger than the opening bid um because
to me
just like that’s a huge change right
that’s not something you’re gonna see
regularly
especially day to day
um but one thing to note is that as we
continue higher
volume drops off and so if we’re gonna
have a super expansive move we’re gonna
see
atr or two atr on qualcomm that’s pretty
unlikely volume is going to die off so
early into the morning we’re not even 15
minutes in
all right sweet so now executions i’ll
start on tape
and so at this point in the tape i’m in
about feeler size
on netflix just seeing um
first move lower was on really low
volume um
buyers are stepping up and so i’m
keeping this wide at this point and i’m
seeing
if we claim 505 which we weren’t able to
claim before 504 80 to 505
and bids claim that how are buyers
stepping up so we break
505 and bids are stepping up at this
point i’m adding
and i’m looking to see two things i’m
looking to see are offers lifting and do
bids hold
or and if volume comes in and so
at this point what i’m thinking through
is if
we flush under 504 50 i’m immediately
cutting half
seeing where this position is and maybe
even cutting full
if we’re able to hold 505 for extended
period of time and i’m able to get good
rr
where i believe we shouldn’t sell under
view up then i’m moving my stop up
and i’m trading that from there
and as you can tell right off the bat
we’re not getting substantial volume
we’re not lifting higher
so how i’m interpreting this information
is
like i said before if we flash i’ll
flatten out um
but if we move higher i’m not going to
have super aggressive targets
i’m going to look to cover risk into the
first move
just because this is already not adding
up to the narrative i want to see
so you can tell 100k volume at the open
for something that does
4.7 million average volume is extremely
low
so this point i’m continually waiting
i’m also watching across the board
um how are other names holding up how
are the names being bought
um yeah and just weighing all of that
together
yeah and just a question so
q qcom is going to match up better with
smh right qcom is going to
match up better with uh some of the
other names like
you’ll you’ll notice qcon moving in sync
more with something like
an amd
not as much with a netflix so i’m
wondering if you thought about
whether or not you would expect qcom to
really move the way netflix would move
those those stocks aren’t
generally stocks that i would pair
together
uh and they’re not not in the same
sector they they are independent of each
other
whereas i i might not say that for a
q-com or an amd
q-com and an amd um thoughts on that
right 100 um and yeah i totally agree
with you so
i’m watching that’s why i was watching
like fang and smh separately so the idea
stems from
i’m gonna see we’re most likely gonna
see a breakout in the market
so what i’m watching is what’s gonna get
bought and so i’m kind of seeing like
is fangs gonna our fang names gonna lead
or smh name’s going to leave
and so that’s why they’re kind of split
up in different industries but i am
watching amd
nvidia on the side and that’s actually
something i wanted to ask
about later in the presentation
okay wait i’ll wait for that all right
perfect um so as you can see now we lift
um i’m looking to see our bid stepping
up and
our sellers stepping in aggressively
because we’re moving on such low volume
and so light
it’s very easy for like a seller to come
in
with substantial size and absolutely
wipe us back into opening range right
like none of these bids are that
substantial and so these are the things
i’m weighing
and also like although we’re moving
higher i’m constantly thinking about
like
is the spread gonna open up to a point
and then um
like i’ll be back at my break even price
and also
um uh how substantial
are the offers lifting um in terms of
independently to each other
and so we’ll continue pushing higher
in a little bit here
the good thing i’m seeing right now is
there there is nothing telling me that
we’re going to stuff really aggressively
um shallow moves lower still getting
bought so
um i’m still holding this position
spreads tighten it decently tight for
this name so
and so we’re gonna push to about 507
507 some change and that’s the point
where we start to stall out
um and that’s where i start to cut a
risk
and i take off that 25 lot that i talked
about earlier
but yeah that’s pretty much it on the
tape and so in terms of executions
um feeler on high low hidden on opening
range broke
out a quarter as we start to slow into
507
um and then i was out another piece uh
into failure to hold v wap and at this
point i don’t want to go red on any of
these positions
um especially with the market narrative
changing so everything is
moved up to more or less a break even
stop um
similar execution on qualcomm more of a
momentum-based one
in this one so my first position was the
opening bid
feeler that got stopped i hit in on
opening range breaks especially when
volume was there
covered risk as we came into resistance
and we broke high day and
and stuff right um brick high day by
like 20 cents and stuff to me that’s a
change in character i cover risk at that
point and then
um whatever left i just have it
essentially a break even stop
and so this is what i wanted to talk
about so
i had a i’ve developed this character
sheet about a month ago
essentially it’s like a ranking system
for the type of names
and how i believe they trade and how
they match up to my
execution style so one ideal two market
leaders
wic low reliable especially on opening
drives opening range breaks and high
volume
three is kind of missing one to two
components for they’re tricky
that four is where it’s really hard to
trade so
for me like if i have a four on it
that’s something i’m
eyeing really carefully five and six i
will only
trade if the setup is really ideal and
the entire sector industry
and the market narrative is all lining
up and so that’s what i wanted to ask
your opinion on bella
so amd was setting up really well as
well
but it’s a name that when i look back
historically on my trades in amd
that i underperform um and
i found it it’s because to me that name
is pretty wicky
it fades a lot of opening drives it
takes multiple attempts a lot of the
times
despite it closing maybe at high day and
so
i kind of if i were to look at qualcomm
and amd
and weigh their setups purely i probably
would have weighed
amd’s a little higher but because i
historically trade qualcomm a lot higher
are a lot better i chose qualcomm over
amd so i was wondering
with your experience and how you’ve seen
guys at the desk kind of tackle this
when they have certain names that they
don’t trade well how do they manage that
balance between
i don’t trade this name well but the
setup is there if that kind of make
sense
yeah i think you want to be looking for
first of all i think this is terrific
i love what you’ve done here i would
highly recommend that other traders keep
track of the trades that they trade well
and this is an excellent best practice
for going about doing that
and so you’ll hear us say internally
uh a bunch of times if you if you’re
sitting in enough am meetings
you’ll hear us say all right
that sector doesn’t trade very well okay
that stock isn’t a really good intraday
stock you know for instance the oil
sector doesn’t trade well
a gold doesn’t trade particularly well
intraday
just to give you an example now that
doesn’t mean
that we won’t trade oil it doesn’t mean
we won’t trade gold it means
we’re going to be slow to trade them
we’re going to need
that stock or that sector to really pull
us into it
and so you for example
when you’re just starting it might be
the case that you are only going to
trade
something that you don’t trade
particularly well
if it has an a plus setup you may say
just not going to do it unless i just
love the setup i love the catalyst
i love the way it’s setting up intraday
i can control my risk
i can make a lot of money on this trade
and you can create new parameters to
take that trade
and and you should do that you should do
that
now senior traders tend to just do that
more instinctively
but uh the you younger guys are better
than us
and particularly in the way that you can
be more systematic
and so just like you develop a ranking
between you know one and six for whether
or not you’re going to take something
you can you can create the times that
you’re willing to take something that
maybe is a
for or worse something that’s tricky or
something that’s a little bit more
difficult for you i i do not recommend
i do not recommend saying
for any particular sector or any
particular stock
that i’m never going to trade it i i
don’t think that’s what the information
you’re getting from the market is is
providing you i
i think if you find a stock that’s
tricky i don’t think that’s information
is
i can’t ever trade it i think the
information is
man i better be really careful about
trading this and i better save it
for only the best setups because we all
know that
the stocks that you’re trading they do
move i mean there is opportunity in that
so you’re going to have to be more
selective
you’re going to have to be more
selective for the setup that’s best for
you
you’re going to have to make sure you
can control your risk
and you’re going to have to make sure
it’s worth your while
and if you did that i i would i would
surmise
i would i would predict that
you’d have a lot of success with it so
you might just sort of say look a
playbook trade for something that i
don’t trade well
it’s just going to have to have way more
variables in my favor
and i’m just going to live with that but
i’m going to give it a run if
it really sets up nicely gosh it
okay that makes a lot of sense i
remember carlton also talking about how
like if you know and name trades really
badly
you’ll know exactly when it trades well
so yeah that lines up i appreciate it
thank you
no that’s that makes sense i’m trying to
think of something that i trade
really badly
that i just
really you know almost i mean gold is
something that i
i feel like intraday you’re going to
have
i think that’s probably something that
is going to require
that that that sector to pull me into it
i’m just going to be real slow to trade
gold
intraday um and there’s lots of trades
better overnight as it is so
that’s that’s that’s one problem um
anyway but i like
excellent work here love the character
sheet appreciate it thank you
and so the other thing um to take away
that we’ve been doing was another part
of our process is
um doing this in notion and so it’s
screenshoting
um the charts on multiple time frames um
setting them up based on
four different rankings and then what is
the intraday setup
where was the open and then particular
stats that we think that
could be meaningful and the reason
behind doing this type of chart booking
is we believe
it’ll help us identify patterns within
setups that share similar key variables
that’ll give us more of an edge as well
as repetition
with different names that move and how
they move exactly and how they move
based on the variables that they have
and then just figuring out intent of
what execution style works best with
that
and so lastly yeah so the focus on this
this last part here is that how to
improve further um
i believe that a big part of the edge
that i have is in the ability to
constantly adjust
um i don’t think edge is something that
stays forever and it’s just
one constant thing with the market it
just so especially as day traders it’s
so volatile it’s constantly changing the
current market environment is constantly
changing
so just trying to constantly stay in the
mindset of
what is the most efficient form of
execution and how can i constantly tweak
and improve
but yeah that’s pretty much it
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